Real science is never settled, and anyone who has certainty on such things is not qualified to discuss it.
Vaccines are tested against a placebo, right? And tested in combination, right?
No, they are never tested against a placebo (eg saline)—vaccines are tested against something which has risks, thus misleading the public on the safety profile. This is by intention/design.
Michael Eades MD comments on: Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth @AMAZON
2023-05-26. Emphasis added.
...the book is a deep dive into vaccines and vaccine safety. And was a true eye-opener for me. It made me realize that the Covid-vaccine fiasco has been sort of a blessing in disguise. Though numerous people have been harmed as a consequence (and not much Covid prevented), the entire roll out and subsequent fallout have exposed the duplicity of the FDA, CDC, NIH, and other institutions that had be previously trusted by all. Including me.
In a section titled Fake Placebo, the authors go into more detail as to how this deception is perpetrated.
It is virtually impossible to state the bottom line of the analysis presented above mildly, so here goes: Vaccine trials in general, and childhood vaccine trials specifically, are purposely designed to obscure the true incidence of adverse events of the vaccine being tested.
How do they do this? By using a two-step scheme: First, a new vaccine (one which does not have a predecessor), is always tested in a Phase 3 RCT in which the control group receives another vaccine (or a compound very similar to the experimental vaccine, see explanation below). A new pediatric vaccine is never tested during its formal approval process against a neutral solution (placebo).
Comparing a trial group to a control group that was given a compound that is likely to cause a similar rate of adverse events facilitates the formation of a false safety profile. The rate of adverse events of the tested vaccine is said to be similar to the “background rate,” hence it is considered safe. The researchers, and the vaccine manufacturer they work for, seem to “forget” that the compound they administered to the control group is a bioactive substance, carrying its own risks and side effects, and hardly represents the baseline or background rate that is essential to a RCT for a new vaccine.
Upon approval—based on this shady evidence—the new vaccine is added to the many recommended vaccines in the various vaccine programs in the US and around the world. Then when a “new and improved” vaccine is under development a few years later, its side effect profile will be compared to this old vaccine under current use.
Thus, all parties involved ensure that the true rate of vaccine adverse events is never discovered – for either the original or upgraded vaccine – and that rate is never shared with the public, or even the medical world.
The practice of giving a different vaccine to the control group in an RCT of an entirely new vaccine and calling it “placebo” is a deliberate misrepresentation of the term.
And these are the vaccines we (I, myself, am guilty) have given to our kids willy nilly. Each one that comes along.
...It’s difficult to imagine that we give these vaccines to children and even helpless infants when they have been so shoddily tested for both short-term and long-term side effects.
I don’t know about you, but it has me infuriated. And, unless you’re a physician, I have way more culpability than you for believing them.
...What do the authors have to say about the measles vaccines currently in use? ....the safety of the MMR line of vaccines, like the rest of the vaccines in the US childhood vaccination program, was tested according to the de facto industry rule of “turtles all the way down.”
WIND: safe and effective? No one really knows.